Low and Moderate
Income Housing Development Task Force
Tuesday, January
27, 2026 - 11:00 am
Ken Hughes - Chairman
Chairman Hughes called
this task force to order at 11:20 am with the following in attendance: Clayton
Barber, Ken Hughes, Tracie McGill, Clayton Menser, James O’Bryan, Matt Stanley,
Davina Thurston, Meg Wood, Caitlyn Wargo, Adam DeSantis and Dan Kelleher. Angie
Allen, Terri Morse, and Carol Calabrese had been previously excused. Matt
Brassard, Joe Pete Wilson, Alan Jones, and Nicole Justice-Green were absent.
Also present: - Dina
Garvey, and Renee Bruno
HUGHES: Good morning, I
will call this first meeting of 2026 of the Low and Moderate Income Housing
Task Force to order. Hopefully, you have an agenda in front of you. Now, I have a time limit, I think we all
probably have time limits, I have a noon meeting at the DA’s Office, so I want
to make sure that I can make that but just want to have an introductory meeting
with you all here, as we begin a new year. Grateful to the Chairman for
allowing me to take a leadership role to succeed former Supervisor Jim Monty,
who did a lot of work for housing in the county.
So, I have an agenda here
for us. We’re not going to drive too deep into every single thing here, but I
want to try and level set what our expectations are. I want to hear from the
Task Force about how we want to proceed, what are the things that we want to
focus on, what are the things that might be longer term/shorter term.
So, before we get into
the agenda, I just want to take an opportunity just go around the room and make
sure that we know everyone in the room. So, I’m Ken Hughes, Town Supervisor in
Essex. Chairman of the Housing Task Force, and I have been on the Housing
Committee for quite some time, helped to create the Land Bank and I also serve
on the Adirondack ROOTS Board as an ex-officio member to that.
MENSER: I am Clayton
Menser, I am the Town Supervisor Crown Point, I am not on the Task Force, but I
am anxious to make sure I know what’s going on.
WOOD: I am Meg Wood;
Supervisor for the Town of Schroon and I am curious.
KELLEHER: Dan Kelleher,
President and CEO of the Regional Office of Sustainable Tourism. You may wonder
why the Office of Tourism is at a Housing Task Force Meeting, but roughly
5-years ago we recognized that we keep up that sector of the economy or help diversifying
the economy without pivoting and lending our skill set and our resources
towards housing. So, we’ve been in this space for some time, and I will turn it
over to Adam DeSantis.
DESANTIS: I am Adam
DeSantis and I am the Director of Economic Development at ROOST. There are a
number of organizations that are doing great week in the low and moderate
income housing side. We’re doing more of our work focusing on market rate
housing and housing that doesn’t necessarily side with the well-established State
and Federal Programs. So, there are some specific, a specific need there, as
well, to support workers throughout the County and we’re focusing our efforts
on that segment of the population.
WARGO: I am Caitlyn
Wargo, I am the Interim Executive Director at Adirondack Roots and as many of
you know, we focus on housing quality, access, affordability, in primarily
Essex County, but also a number of other programs in Clinton, Hamilton and
housing counseling and foreclosure counseling, all over the Adirondacks. We
help keep people in the homes that they are living in, help rehab them and we
started developing new homes, as well.
MCGILL: Tracie McGill,
the Town of Willsboro and I am looking forward to being on the Task Force.
STANLEY: I am Matt
Stanley, I am Supervisor for the Town of Jay and housing goes, touches very facet
of our economy. So, we need to get more people, families, living in Essex
County, not only to work at Essex County, work at the towns, keep tourism
going, we also need to support our schools by increasing the amount of families
that want to and can move here. So, I think this committee has been a huge
asset. I’m excited to see where we go, starting this year.
O’BRYAN: I’m James
O’Bryan, I am the Town Supervisor for Ticonderoga, I’m 3 weeks old, I think 4
weeks old, now, but I would be very interested in this. I have a passion for
knowing what we’re going to be doing in the future for housing. Exactly, what
my fellow members said just moments ago, is we cannot grow the economy of the North
Country unless we can deal with housing and I am seeing that in my own town,
right now. It’s going to magnify even more as we move forward with some
projects down in Ticonderoga, here in the near future. So, I am very interested
and very excited to be here and you know look forward to learning more about
this.
BARBER: I am Clayton
Barber, Town of Chesterfield Supervisor. I have been on this committee since I
started in 2020. I was lucky, today, to join the Land Bank Board and I am
excited about that. I have many projects in the Town of Chesterfield. I have a
contract with the Land Bank for 6 new mod houses on a piece of property that
the Town of Chesterfield has had for many years and I’m excited to get that
moving.
HUGHES: Thank you
BRUNO: I am Renee Bruno,
Deputy Commissioner for Essex County Social Services. Normally, you’ll see
Angie Allen, our commissioner, at these meetings, but I’m filling in for her
today, but we clearly have, work with many people that have a need for low-income
housing.
HUGHES: Glad you’re here
and I know Angie would be here if she could have. I also know that Terri Morse
would have been here, Office of Mental Health, she had a prior commitment, as
well, and I know that Carol Calabrese from IDA would have been here, but she
also had a conflicting engagement. So, you can see the different partners that
we’re working with and the different people that are participating in this
conversation as Clayton Barber said, this has been going on for many, many
years and so this is the new version of it. We have a lot of fresh faces and
new ideas and new blood in the room, so I am excited for that, because it has
been going on we have had conversations in the past and some of you were not
part of that conversation, so if you take a look in your packet, on the second
page, you’ll see the conversation that took place on October 27, 2025, when we
had a different group of people in the room. So, nothing that I really want to
focus on right now, nothing I really want to dive into, but this is for your
homework, this is for your own personal reading, over the course of time, take
a look and see what kind of discussions we were looking at and I know we’ve had
discussions recently about Hennepin and what that is, Supreme Court decision
that really turned on its heels housing and financials around housing and
ownership are interpreted. Of course, Hennepin at the Supreme Court level was
very direct, but also very vague and left a lot of interpretations up to the
States and those States are all trying to figure out how they want to handle
things through legislation. So, you’ll see, that old business, ROOST update,
additional discussions and things like that. So, if you see something on this
October 27th, document that you feel should be resurrected or
brought back up, please by all means, let’s make sure it gets on the agenda for
the future, so we can keep it as an ongoing conversation item or one thing I
can’t stand is paralysis of analysis. Let’s get things done, let’s get some
action going, let’s be smart about it and let’s execute on behalf of the people
of this County and if we have to course correct along on the way, then we do
that, but to sit here for ongoing discussions is not something that I am going
to want to do. I am going to get something done.
So, please take a look at
that second page there and third page and would love to know if you think
something should be added to the agenda in the future. Please let me know, direct
and I will make sure that it gets added.
Something that I want to
make sure, agenda item #4, that we understand is that we have a lot of
non-profit partners, government can only go so much. I know that when it came
to the Land Bank, and the creation of the Land Bank, it was a presentation,
right here in these chambers by ADK Action, that kind of inspired me and a
couple of people to take a look at what a land bank actually was. So, I just
wanted to put it out that, in no particular order, and if I am missing
somebody, please let me know, but this is the list of the non-profit partners
that I can think of that are working in Essex County, that are doing something
with housing. They’re either studying it, themselves or they’re getting grants
themselves, or they’re taking action themselves, or working with us, but these
are the six different groups that I can think of that have done some housing
type of work in the county over the past couple of years. Maybe some of you
have direct, obviously ROOST is in the room, right now so this is wonderful.
Typically, we will have the Land Bank, present. We have ADK, Adirondack Roots
with us, which is great. So, if there’s any other organization that you think
should be here, please let me know. The letter E, the Regional Planning Board,
has been doing a ton of work, housing studies. ROOST, you guys have done your
own studies, as well. So, I just want to make sure that we know who our
partners are, because we’re not going to do it along and sometimes, they have
the great brains to get things started and then we can finish it up,
governmentally. So, those are really important synergistic relationships.
Clayton, did you have
somebody you thought?
BARBER: Yeah, Friends of
the North Country.
HUGHES: Oh, okay
BARBER: I have done some
work with them.
HUGHES: I don’t know, can
you tell me.
BARBER: So, they are part
of, participation in CDBG grants and again, I know Adirondack Roots does the
CDBG grants, also. So, they are kind of in competition.
WARGO: So, they are primarily
in Clinton County. I mean, dip a toe into Keeseville.
BARBER: Right
WARGO: Chesterfield and
Keeseville. I don’t know where else they serve in Essex County, other than
maybe your town?
BARBER: And that possibly
could be. At one time, they were stationed in Chesterfield. I want to say, now
they have moved to Skyler Falls. So, they do touch, as she said, they touch
Chesterfield. I don’t know if they go to Jay, at all.
STANLEY: There are
projects that sometimes come across.
WARGO: Oh, there are,
okay?
STANLEY: Just in AuSable
Forks.
HUGHES: Does the Task
Force feel that adding, I didn’t know this at all, so thank you for bringing it
up, does the Task Force feel that the Friends of the North Country should be
added and kept in the loop on our progress?
BARBER: I mean, if they
reach out to towns. I mean, it’s up to them, obviously, they’re the ones that
came to me and I know, they dealt before, obviously, in Chesterfield and when I
became Supervisor, they came back to us.
HUGHES: It doesn’t harm
us to keep them in the loop of what’s going on, especially if it benefits you,
maybe a toe in Jay. I meant that’s just another organization. Whether it’s
“competition” or not, it’s still an organization.
WARGO: Right, they are
rehabbing homes for sure, they do housing counseling. We’re in touch with them
with our housing counseling peer group and they’re more the preservation of
existing housing, to my understanding, which is equally important to keep the
homes that we’ve got.
HUGHES: Yeah
WARGO: Safe of the
residents and keep them in their homes.
STANLEY: Do you want to
send an invite to Habitat for Humanity?
HUGHES: I don’t know.
STANLEY: There’s a
project supposed to be starting in Jay for a house.
HUGHES: Okay, I mean they
have the right of first refusal.
STANLEY: Right
HUGHES: We put it out
there and ask and the worst they can say is no. So, I don’t mind keeping them
in the loop in what we’re doing. Maybe they’ve got something that’s coming down
the pike that you know, we can collaborate with to better understand and
support in some way, shape or form.
STANLEY: And they may
need assistance or just ideas.
HUGHES: Right, okay, I’ll
add that, no problem. If you have anything else, please let me know. I just
want to make sure that we’re not doing it alone, if there are a couple of
different silos and if they’re doing their thing, but we can also coordinate
with them in some way, shape, or form, I think that’s a rising tide to lift all
boats and I think that’s really important.
STANLEY: And I, sorry,
and also, because Carol’s not here, the IDA.
HUGHES: Yeah, I didn’t
put them on, because I didn’t call them a non-profit partner, but absolutely. I
will add them, as well, maybe I’ll just call housing partners.
STANLEY: Because I know
they have talked to a few developers.
HUGHES: They have; they
have taken the lead on some of that stuff.
STANLEY: One in Ti,
especially.
HUGHES: Yeah, I will
change non-profit to housing partners and we’ll add them to the list, that’s
great. Thank you for that feedback.
WARGO: So, if you are
doing that, Lake Champlain/Lake George Regional Board.
HUGHES: They’re on there,
letter E.
WARGO: Oh, there they
are.
HUGHES: Perfect, yeah,
feedback on the agenda creation, please let me know if you think somebody
should be added as the course of time goes on and certainly New York State is a
partner. New York State has done a lot of work, in #5. I attached, I don’t know
if any of you had a chance to watch the State of the State Address, a couple of
weeks ago, last week, but wanted to provide you with, on the back, where is
says, page 62-63, at the top of 64, Governor Hochul, did outline what she’s
looking to do, this upcoming fiscal year, when it comes to housing and so if
you did not have the opportunity to observe or see or learn more about what
she’s thinking about at the State level, I wanted to make sure that you had
that language here, for your own personal FYI, as we begin to kind of develop a
portfolio in our brains about where funding might come from, where the
initiatives are and how Essex County can jump in on those initiatives.
And also #5B, Housing HCR
- Housing and Community Renewal, is a very important partner at the State
level. They are the ones who administer the Pro-Housing Communities and they’re
also the ones who provided $68 million to assist low and moderate income
households. $16+ million going to 270 homes and I provided that article in here
from Sun Community News, so you’re all aware of exactly what’s happening
especially in the North Country, $16,980,000.00 for 270 homes in the North
Country, which is probably not just Essex County, but the 8-9 counties that
encompass the North Country. So, I just want to make sure that you’re aware of
that initiative, as well and again, that came from the Sun, I am glad they
covered it.
And on the front page, we
have worked through our mission and vision, so if anybody asked the question,
what are we doing? Why are we doing it? We have worked through, a couple of
years ago, the mission of this task force and I have provided that for you at
the bottom here, so you can kind of get a sense of what we’re actually working
towards and what we hope to endeavour with our actions.
So, on the second page of
the agenda, 6, I just tried to put some ongoing thoughts here. Just trying to
get our brains in the process, again, for the new people in the room, you know,
this is brand new to you and trying to get your juices flowing when it comes to
how you’re thinking about housing, for not just your own personal towns, but
also for the larger county and so these are things, these are discussions that
we have had that I don’t mind taking a few minutes, this morning to discuss any
of this. Essex County property tax acquisition and disposition to Land Bank,
what does that process look like. We do have a policy that we adopted that kind
of work through that, from December 30th and so, I am not sure if
all of you are aware of what that policy looks like, but that does exist.
Talking about how we’re dealing with blighted property initiatives and code
enforcement, conversation about code enforcement has been a good one and what
are we doing if we have a burned out house, we have a blighted home in our
town. Are you just letting it sit there? Are we asking the code officer to get
involved, do our towns have unsafe structure laws, are they being supported,
are the local judges supporting them, you know through what local judges can do
to support our code officers.
And we’ve also had a
bunch of conversations about ADUs, accessory dwelling units, local zoning.
Certainly, zoning is not a statewide initiative, zoning is specific to your own
individual towns, you have your own local law, your local ordinance for zoning
and the conversation about how accessory dwelling units maybe a side garage
that can be converted into a single bedroom home for somebody and what that might
look like when it comes to the amount of space you can build on a certain piece
of parcel, you know, is it in a hamlet, outside an hamlet. I know in my town,
my zoning law is incredibly restrictive on some of those things and we’re going
to be looking at opening that up, potentially and I left D blank, because maybe
there’s some ideas that you would like to see in terms of near term areas that
we should be focusing on. This is not just about me, this is about your ideas,
things that you’re experiencing in your towns and where you think you might
want this task force to start taking a looking at and maybe putting some energy
or policy and/or direction.
THURSTON: I am not on
this task force or committee, I would like to be, but I’m not. I would ask that
the Land Bank just take a moment, because we do have some new people here and I
just want to have some clarity on exactly what it looks like, so for example,
the Land Bank has 4 properties in Keene, right? And they just sold those properties,
or I think 3 out of 4.
STANLEY: That was Roots.
THURSTON: Sorry, Roots.
So, they just sold the property, right?
WARGO: Yes
THRUSTON: So, example to
us, exactly how it works, how does that remain for low to moderate income
families in perpetuity?
HUGHES: Is that Roots or
the Housing Trust?
WARGO: That is the
Housing Trust.
HUGHES: And we probably
should add the Housing Trust to the list.
WARGO: You do.
HUGHES: Good
WARGO: You have it on the
top, as a partner. I am happy to do that now or later.
THURSTON: Now, would be
great. I would love to hear it.
WARGO: So, the Land Bank
and the Adirondack Community Housing Trust, have similar goals, which is
affordable housing in perpetuity. They are achieved by different means. The
Land Bank uses, I believe, and I can’t speak for them, but a deed restriction.
We don’t use a deed restriction. We were formed in 2007; the Community Land
Trust in New York State predominately uses a ground lease. So, what happens is
we, the Land Trust, owns the property beneath the home and sells the home to
the purchaser. So, they have a reduced price, because of that. We then have a
ground lease that stipulates all the different things that a deed restriction
would do. So, it stipulates no short term rentals, it stipulates that this has
to be your primary residence, it stipulates all these things, including the
resell formula and a period of time of which a sale needs to go to an income
qualified person. So, if we can’t find one, and we have a whole list of people
who have done housing counseling with us that are looking for homes, if we
can’t find one by our means or going through a realtor, there is a 6-month
window, where you can then go out in the open market. The home will stay in the
Trust, but the goal is to find and provide a vehicle to find an income
qualified homeowner. If you look at the AMI, we go to 120 AMI at the ECHT and I
believe the Land Bank goes to 200, but I don’t want to speak.
THURSTON: So, one of the
questions that my Town Board had regarding this type of property is, okay, so
they buy this property for $140,000.00, what if they want to put an addition on
it? What if they want to take their own money, you know, they came into an
inheritance or something, they wanted to do a $50,000.00 addition to the
property, does that increase what they could sell it for?
WARGO: To a degree, yes,
it is all part of the resell formula. It makes it all the more complicated than
the deed restriction. I know, I believe the Land Bank and the Homestead
Development in Lake Placid, has like a 2% per year maximum increase in value,
to restrict the equity moving forward, so you can’t flip it.
THURSTON: Right, that was
the point.
WARGO: So, I don’t what
they do about improvements like that, but we do is they have to have a
conversation with us, we talk about it. That new addition or whatever it is,
those improvements can’t make the house unaffordable to someone making 100% of
the area median income. So, it is a dialogue, it is an ongoing relationship to
make sure that home stays affordable, so they can’t double size the home and
say, I’m selling it.
THURSTON: And then if,
for example, they want to leave that home to their children, how does that
work?
WARGO: With the Housing
Trust and the Community Land Trust in general, you can pass a home onto your heirs,
and they do not have to be income qualified, but to sell the home, you need to
find an income qualified buyer and we help with that. They are not on their own
to find an income qualified buyer.
THURSTON: Okay, thank
you.
STANLEY: I think for the
Land Bank in the original sale, it depends on the funding source.
HUGHES: That’s possible,
too.
STANLEY: I think the ARPA
funding for the house in Upper Jay, was able to go up to 200% AMI, whereas,
like other funding, like this Move In NY, has income restrictions and that’s
what is actually put in the deed.
WARGO: Is based on what
the financing source is.
HUGHES: That makes sense.
Normally, Nicole would be here.
WARGO: Right, the
ultimate goal is the same, it’s just different means arriving at the same
place, which is a home that is going to stay available to working families and
not going on the open market.
THURSTON: Thank you
HUGHES: Good question,
thank you.
So, yes, these are the
things that we have been talking about, just in terms of what does this Task
Force wants to make recommendations on. Potentially, with code enforcement,
what do we need to learn more about in order to make a recommendation? Should
we have presenters or somebody to come in and speak to these kinds of things?
So, I wanted to put these on here, that these are the things we’ve talked
about, this is our very first opening meeting of 2026, trying to level set
where we are. The Task Force is going to drive this agenda, just let me know
what you want put on here and I will make that happen. And I left D, and maybe
E and F open, because maybe there’s some topics that I am forgetting, as I kind
of brain dumped this agenda, just to put it together just to put it together so
we could have just an intelligent conversation, today to get things started.
STANLEY: And just to
throw out there, for the code enforcement piece, there was discussion and I
think the Lake Champlain/Lake George Regional Planning Board was looking into
more of a shared, countywide code enforcement, correct?
HUGHES: Yeah, absolutely,
there’s a lot of conversations, we all have code officers in our towns. We are
mandated by New York State to have a code officer to do State codes and fire
and so the challenge is, at least in my small town, it’s hard to find a
qualified code officer, who actually can go through the process of getting the
training to do the work. I think I have been through 5-6 in my short 6-7 years
of being Supervisor. It is very, very difficult. We actually tried a shared
service with Willsboro, a long time ago for code and zoning and it started out
great and then it fell last on its face and then most people don’t understand
that there is a difference, a major difference between codes and zoning. Oh,
you can do codes, you can do zoning, there are different animals, big,
different beasts.
THURSTON: So, what St.
Armand, has and we’ve done this for years. We share a code enforcement officer
with the Town of Jay, with the Town of Brighton and with the Town of Franklin.
We all have Roger Tompkins and we all share him. He works with each one of us,
individually, we each pay him a salary and he does different days and of
course, you know, he stops in when something big happens, you can him and
whatever, but that actually, I think, works really, really well, sharing a code
officer, because not, one small town, we do 40 building permits in a year, you
know, I can’t afford a full-time, year around code officer when I’m only
bringing $6,000.00 a year selling building permits. So, sharing one really does
work. I also, on a completely separate topic, recently and I do apologize, I
cannot recall, I thought it was the Lake Champlain Basin Program was doing
blighted property inventory. Do you recall this?
HUGHES: That’s the
Regional Planning Board.
THURSTON: The Regional
Planning Board, so we are, I believe we’re going to be getting that inventory
this year, in 2026 and that might also help steer the housing report.
HUGHES: The conversation.
THURSTON: Yes, exactly
HUGHES: And just to
piggyback, because Clayton, we’re nodding, because in our area, we’ve got
somebody that lives in the Town of Schroon who is the code officer for
Willsboro, Essex, Minerva, Crown Point and one other or two others, I think.
WOOD: We have a full-time
codes officer and he gives North Hudson 4 hours on a Wednesday afternoon and
that’s all they need, but we can just barely make do with what we have with a
full-time person.
HUGHES: So, the shared
code officer conversation is kind of happening, right and so the question I
think that will happen in the next year or two is, should that experiment
become a more codified initiative at the County level, when it comes to paying
salaries, when it comes to paying benefits, when it comes buy-in from the
towns. Because maybe there’s a town, maybe North Elba or Ti, absolutely is
super happy with finding a code officer. They’ve got it, no problem, they’re
never going to have a problem, right? It’s kind of like with EMS, some towns
have great EMS and some towns really struggle with finding EMS providers, but
we have to think countywide, instead of just our little individual towns. So, I
think that this conversation is probably going to come up. I think there’s a
huge headwind towards it. I can’t tell you for sure, but I feel like there’s
going to be a really big headwind to make it county initiative and a county,
and I know it’s a county problem, but a county responsibility in lieu of the
towns. That early conversation is probably going to be born out of conversations
that we have here. It’s kind of like saying the States are laboratories for
democracy, right, for the Federal Government. I think this is a laboratory for
this kind of conversation that’s going to potentially change the game at the
County level and it’s going to be this Task Force, that I think is going to
bring that about. If you have other ideas for Agenda #6, let me know, I am
happy to add it.
I also want to make sure
that in #7, we’re staying abreast of what the current, ongoing projects are.
So, new Supervisors and new people in the room, you will also receive, you
should always receive every month, a report for the Essex County Land Bank
about what they’re doing, it’s a comprehensive report, also Adirondack Roots,
also provides a very comprehensive report and so you’ll have that as part of the Economic
Development meeting that we have every month. What we don’t necessarily get
every month is an update on the 60-unit that is going on in Ticonderoga. The
ESSHI grant funding from converting hotels and motels into transition housing
or tiny home projects and housing County employees. So, I don’t have anything
to add to that conversation. I don’t have any in-depth information to provide
you, but I do know those are things that are kind of going on and we’re aware
of housing projects. I know, I just saw a picture of Emily Politi, standing in
front of a house up in North Elba, is that Homestead? I can’t remember what
she’s doing, Homestead. So, they’re doing that. There’s another organization up
there that’s doing a lot of housing, just in the North Elba area. They just
finished Fawn Valley, so there’s probably somebody we should add to our list of
just partners. But they’re doing, kind of their own thing in North Elba, which
is awesome, because North Elba needs affordable housing. So, if there’s anybody
in the room that would like to speak to the status of any on-going projects,
we’ve got 5 minutes and I would be happy to hear any updates on that.
STANLEY: So, the County,
each year, whether through Adirondack Roots or North Country Rural Development
work through CDBG Homes Restoration Grants. The Town of Jay, we actually went
after one this year, just for Town of Jay residents. It doesn’t hurt if another
town has a need to go out and contract with either Adirondack Roots of NRDC and
maybe friends of North Country, to go after some of these funds, to help. A lot
of that does to lower income residents that are living in our community. So,
it’s a great thing to sort of do and get a feel if there are people, like I
think we’re oversubscribed and we want $200,000.00 and we’re doing, I think 2
houses and seeing where that goes. We have like 5-6 people apply. So, it shows
that there’s a need.
HUGHES: Awesome
WARGO: We’re doing a
similar project in the Town of Chesterfield, also the Town of Moriah and then
both organizations have an impact countywide, but that is preserving existing
housing stock, which is a key part of this equitation of having enough housing
for people that live here. We have to keep that existing housing stock.
One thing that I would
add, quickly, the 60-unit building in Ticonderoga, that’s a low income tax
credit housing project.
HUGHES: LIHTC
WARGO: Yes, LIHTC, we are
working with the developer who’s got a scattered site project in the Town of
Schroon that has also applied for that same funding for I can’t remember how
many units in Schroon, 20 some units in Schroon, a couple at the Lee House in
Port Henry.
WOOD: Okay, so this,
right now, the talk is 22-units, proposed stage.
WARGO: It’s in the
proposed stage, waiting to hear, just like the 60-unit. They have both been
applied to the State to the LIHTC program, awaiting decisions, but this is
Round Two for the Ticonderoga project, whereas this is Round One for this
project and the general rule of thumb is that you don’t get accepted your first
round, like McKenzie Overlook in North Elba. They had to apply a second time,
but that is another project that is right here in Essex County.
HUGHES: That is good to
know, I mean what are the successes that are happening.
WARGO: I mean it would
come through. It would create those new units in the Town of Schroon, but then
rehab what is a 150 year old building on Main Street in Port Henry that is in
need of some TLC.
HUGHES: Great, I am going
to add those bullets. I think that’s important to just keep that on the brain.
WARGO: And those are low
income, so you’re looking at 50% AMI or something.
DESANTIS: Up to 80%, I
think so.
HUGHES: I thought so,
too.
WARGO: Maybe, it is and
our building currenting is seniors and adults with developmental disabilities,
I don’t know about Ticonderoga is.
HUGHES: So, if you know
of any current projects in your travels and you want them added to the agenda,
just to keep us in the loop about what the successes are, let me know, I’ll get
it added, just so we’re aware of what’s happening in the County.
O’BRYAN: Yeah, we in
Ticonderoga, we have a project, starting up this spring for 32 new units.
They’re going to be duplexes, triplexes, they’re going to be built behind the
college property. These were meant to be there 25 years ago, when we did the
initial project and it’s finally going to get. Now, there’s a caveat in that,
the deed to these properties and that is, you have to be 55 or older to buy
into the properties. However, what that does is, you get a lot of people that
want to start downsizes and puts their larger homes on the market for us in
region and then they move into one of these new homes that are being built. We
also had, the other night, the Chairman and I had opportunity and some of our
other Board Members to be in Ticonderoga to see a new residence at 175 The
Portage, brought online by NRDC and now it’s going up for sale, I believe. So,
it was good to see that, and I know that there are others, they’ve got some
other things that are going to happen this year. They have 4 homes that are
going to be going on, up The Portage, just a little but further, they’re going
to be bringing in, that’s going to start in the spring.
The only other thing that
I’ll say about that, you brought up something, at times there’s a friction that
exists between zoning and in my case, NRDC. So, I need to work through that. I
don’t know from Ms. Green, what that problem is. I talked to my zoning
officers, but I want to make sure that it’s seamless. I also want to make sure
we’re following zoning laws that we have in place. So, I thought I would bring
that up.
HUGHES: Yeah, a local
issue, but it can have larger effects.
O’BRYAN: It can,
absolutely.
HUGHES: Well, coming up
on our time; 8, how often do we want to meet? Before, we were meeting quarterly
and then the Task Force was really wanting to meet monthly, you know how often
do we want to make some discussion meetings, work meetings, what does the Task
Force wants to, how do you want to see us moving ahead in this year.
STANLEY: The problem that
I see with quarterly meetings is something gets put on a list and if you’re
like me, you wait until the day before to do something.
HUGHES: That’s fair.
STANLEY: So, if we’re
monthly, we’re at lease holding ourselves to a little more of a moving
timeline, as opposed to quarterly, pushing things off a little bit.
HUGHES: Yeah, I agree
with that, but I wanted to just see what people were thinking. There’s a
crisis, we want to keep the momentum.
BARBER: So, Ken, I
really, as I said, working with the Land Bank and I have 6 manufactured homes
coming to my community, we are excited, I have the contract that we signed with
the Land Bank for them to do and I would love to share it, especially with the
new Supervisors or any Supervisor that has property that’s town owned. The reason
why we gave it to them, I just would love to share that, because I am truly
excited, so my suggestion, I would like to meet, I wanted to explain at this
one, but due time, I will hold off until the next one.
HUGHES: Thank you, okay.
Monthly?
STANLEY: Is there a
thought, as we get doing projects like what’s happening in Chesterfield, that
we may want to, I mean it’s great having this meeting right after Ways and
Means, because we’re all here, but maybe taking one of those monthly meetings
to go to a Chesterfield to discuss that issue and then go look at the sight to
see how it’s progressing.
HUGHES: We can do field
trips, no problem, as long as they’re scheduled ahead of time and there’s
availability, I think that’s a really smart thing to do.
STANLEY: Because I think
there’s also a, how do we build off that success, the success of Keene? What
Wilmington is trying to do. I think there’s a lot of things around the County
that we would like to really piggyback off of.
HUGHES: Right
STANLEY: Like I want to
know who is doing the senior, essentially senior housing for 55 and above,
because that is what I want to see in my town.
HUGHES: Yeah
STANLEY: So, I think
there’s a lot of sharing that can go on and looking and picking each other’s
brains, so we don’t have to reinvent the wheel.
HUGHES: Great, I love it.
So, we’re going to meet monthly. If I had to give any homework or any work
between now and then, it’s, help me strengthen this agenda. So, I have taken a
bunch of notes. I will pass out a draft agenda, just like I do on my town
board, about a week before, just to see if there is anything that you would
like to see added. Please, let me know in the interim if you can think of
something that should be added to this or modified or removed, I will do that
and then that will be our effort between now and February, is to just
strengthen the agenda and then as we go along, we’re going to strengthen and
focus where we want to be.
Davina, you said you
wanted to be on this Task Force and are not? Do you want to be on this Task
Force? Is there anybody in the room who’s not on, but wants to be?
STANLEY: I don’t think I
am.
HUGHES: Do you want to
be?
STANLEY: Yeah
HUGHES: Who else is not
on this Task Force that wants to be? No pressure. Okay, so this is for Task
Force Members, only, right now. I would like to make the motion that we add
Davina Thurston and Matt Stanley to the Low and Moderate Income Task Force, I need
a second? Jim, you’re on the Task Force?
O’BRYAN: I am
HUGHES: That’s a second.
Any questions or concerns about adding them? All in favor, aye. Opposed,
carried.
Okay, so I motioned that
and Jim, you seconded. I don’t know if we can do that, but I just did it
(laugher).
GARVEY: I’m sorry, but
you can’t. The Chairman needs to set the committees, it’s in the Rules.
HUGHES: So, what I am
going to do is let the Chairman know, that we did a resolution that is
non-binding and I am going to let him that we would like his approval to put
Mr. Stanley and Ms. Thurston on the Task Force and hopefully, we’ll have the
approval for that. So, I’ll work that out.
Okay, anything else for
the good of the order? Okay, see you next month, thank you, everybody.
So, next meeting will be
after Ways and Means, in February, 11:00.
THERE
WAS NO FURTHER BUSINESS TO COME BEFORE THIS TASK FORCE WAS ADJOURNED AT 11:00 AM.
Respectively Submitted,
Dina Garvey, Deputy Clerk
Board of Supervisors