PUBLIC SAFETY COMMITTEE
Monday, February 9,
2026 - 9:30 AM
Ken Hughes, Chairperson
Davina Thurston, Vice-Chairperson
Chairman Hughes called this Public
Safety Committee to order at 9:30 am with the following Supervisors in
attendance: Clayton Barber, Matthew Brassard, Chris Clark, Timothy Follos, Kenneth Hughes, Mary Lamphear, Tracie McGill,
Steve McNally, Clayton Menser, James O’Bryan, Timothy Pierce, Richard Preston,
Cathleen Reusser, Matthew Stanley, Davina Thurston, Michael Tyler, Joe Pete Wilson
and Meg Wood.
Department Heads present: Jim Dougan, Josh
Favro, Emily Evatt, Judy Garrison, Roy Holzer, Mike Mascarenas, Mary McGowan, David Reynolds,
Heather Sheehan and Dan Woods. Miriam
Hadden was excused.
Also present:
William Tansey, Michael LaVallie, Randi Swires, Shannon Doyle and Andrea
Baer.
HUGHES:
Good morning, everybody the time is 9:31, I’d like to call this public
safety committee to order. Please rise to salute the flag. Good morning,
everybody, let’s begin with the County Sealer, Mr. Dan Woods come on up sir.
WOODS:
Good morning, everyone. If you
turn over to the second page, you’ll be able to see my report for the month of
January. I will give everybody a second to look at it, if you have any
questions, I’d be happy to answer.
BRASSARD:
Dan so, the Dollar General in Schroon Lake that’s probably the lowest
accuracy I’ve seen on your reports 48%? Would you agree with that?
WOODS: It
isn’t the lowest. I have had a 28% but
yes, this one is pretty low. They ae running a skeleton crew right now,
especially at Schroon Lake. They have employees out that are on paid leave and
that has made it harder for them. While
they were trying to explain to me why their pricing accuracy was not as good as
it should be.
BRASSARD: I’m pretty sure like always they will
pay their fine and keep on paying that and carrying on. Thank you.
HUGHES: I wisht there was a way in some
municipalities that have an inspector that inspects a restaurant and they get a
big, colorful neon poster at the entrance of that restaurant to let you know
what their rating was. I don’t know if it is legal or not, but it would be
amazing to have a nice big neon that says 48% for a certain business so people
walking in would see that they’re not doing a great job not just this store but
any store. One take away of many that I
had from the introductory was that you’ve got to treat everybody with parody,
equally you can’t bang on one if you’re not going to bang on the mom and pops
and the mom and pops and the big guys as well you’ve got to treat everybody
with a delicate balance you have to have.
WOODS:
There definitely has to be a balance and it’s also with I know many of
you brought up putting ads in the paper or putting it in public it’s a
tiptoeing situation with slander and defamation and even after they’ve paid the
fine that is still not admition of guilt all they are doing is accepting the
fact that they have to pay money to make it go away it’s not actually admitting
of guilt so we have to be careful with what we say, how we say it and how it’s publicly put out there as well. If you are wanting to put something in the
paper, I would reach out to County Attorney before anything goes in to make
sure that we are not getting ourselves into something on the wrong side.
WOOD: But if you just report facts and
statistics and then let the reader, who has a brain, see those facts in one
place, in one little county, in one state it would be very interesting to see if
that starts the ball rolling. You don’t
have to judge, you don’t have to do anything you just have to report how many
stores, what corporation owns them all, all the facts and however long you want
to do your comparison of what the findings were and what the payment was in
fines and then it would be very interesting to see maybe that the fines are
cheaper than actually having paid employees where you know have to pay them
some kind of wage but you also have to pay the fringe, the social security all
that. It’s probably a business plan.
HUGHES: Thank you for sharing that. If the county wants to go in this direction,
then certainly I would still want to go through the county attorney.
O’BRYAN: What are the types of things that they
are over charging on?
WOODS:
It’s everything in the store so when I go into do a pricing accuracy
check it’s 100 random items selected on the shelves and I will use their
scanning system, and you match it to whatever the price is on the shelf to
whatever it comes up onto the scanner.
It is the whole entire store a lot of things that are up there honestly
are things that don’t have price tags at all they don’t have an official home
for them is what they would say when it comes up on their scanning system it
tells you okay, this is supposed to be in aisle I21 well, when you go to that location
sometimes they’ll put it on a hanger two aisles down trying to grab attention
but don’t put an actual label up on there so it’s not labeled in one location
they get it marked wrong for not having an actual price tag on it. When you
claim overstock, you can claim overstock on the top shelf if everything is
overstock once you put a price tag on one thing on the top shelf everything
needs to be labeled. A lot of places are having problems with vendors, they are
just coming in and shoving everything into every location that they can fit
something and not actually putting it in the proper location so when you look
at an item there’s 40 items there and they all say $4.99 when they are supposed
to be ten spots down that’s $9.99 there’s a lot of different things that can go
wrong and it’s not always the workers as much as it is the vendors but as the
manager their job is to check and verify the vendor so there’s a lot of
pointing fingers and blaming that’s going on and I have advised the management
to not sign the paperwork accepting the goods in the store until they verify
it’s in the right location. It may hold
up the vendor for another half hour but it’s a lot better than getting a
$20,000 fine.
O’BRYAN: These percentages just for today
actually could be much higher based on really, only 100 count.
WOODS: Yeah, this is only a 100-count sample
out of the entire store, which could be a lot worse. When I go through and I
find, I choose one item and will check the, say it’s the whole entire end cap
one item is wrong I will check the surrounding items just to let them know and
there could be 20 items wrong in that one end cap I only write it up as one and
I will put in my comment section entire end cap wrong so they know they need to
look at the entire end cap but they are only getting fined for one item for
that whole entire end cap so yes, it could be a lot worse if I wrote it in a
different way.
HUGHES: Thank you, Mr. Woods. Any other
questions or comments for him this morning?
A couple of things that we might want to take a look at offline.
PIERCE:
I’m just curious and you might have mentioned this before, but when you
go places and you see the 48% like in Schroon Lake is that something you
revisit relatively soon after? Thirty days or sixty days?
WOODS: So, when I talk to corporate at Dollar General,
I told them that I wait at least four months before returning allowing people
to be able to fix the problem. They told me that it is way too long and that it
should be fixed sooner. Recently, in the
last two years I’ve been waiting almost six months to revisit trying to give
everybody a chance to fix the issues however, they are still not getting fixed
in those locations but I’m not sure if we keep fining them heavily every two
they are just going to close the door and people will not have a place to shop
at 8 o’clock at night when their kids are sick and they need medicine.
WOOD:
That’s exactly the kind of information statistically in keeping phone
logs and logs like that that you can incorporate into your facts that’s not
slander, that’s not a biased statement it’s just put that stuff along with the
testing everything else. How much these
companies actually make every year?
HUGHES: If we do begin to look into publishing publicly,
I want to make sure there are maybe a precedent for doing that from somewhere
else in New York State as well as passing through the county attorney. We can
spend all morning on this, and I don’t want to, but the topic can be brought up,
we are going to have a conversation about it.
THURSTON:
I just had one thing and Dan touched on it and this is kind of not
weights and measures, so I apologize for that but a lot of us do have Dollar
Generals in our towns we have one in Bloomingdale. It is a godsend truly for a
lot of people in the town even though we did get some push back when they first
came in one of the biggest problems that I’m having this winter and that’s why
I am bringing it up now to see if any of you are having the same problem, is
with their snow plowing. So, the way it works is the manager is supposed to
send in a ticket to upper management to get approval to plow the parking lot
there and I’m just wondering if any of you are having problems with the
plowing?
BRASSARD: No.
THURSTON: Are you being plowed first thing in
the morning?
BRASSARD: Yes, for both locations Moriah and
Port Henry before the store opens.
THURSTON: Before the store opens?
BRASSARD: Yes.
HUGHES: Respectfully I would like to focus on
the county sealer’s report here and that conversation could be had respectfully
with individuals. I want to make sure that we are not talking about a specific
business in a positive or a negative way in this committee. I just want to be careful about that for the
record. Thank you. Anything else for Mr.
Woods this morning on his report?
O’BRYAN: Just the occupancy tax I see numbers here,
but what are you seeing out there Dan?
WOODS:
Occupancy tax we did really well. We haven’t fully gotten our number,
but we are definitely over $7 million.
MASCARENAS: Yeah, it was projected last month
that we were going to be at about $7.4 million in terms of that, so Dan is the
enforcement wing of occupancy tax. He gets involved when we think that somebody
is having an Airbnb or something like that, they are not paying tax on. Mike
Diskin handles the finance of that but yeah, last meeting we were projecting
$7.4 million for 2025.
HUGHES: Any further questions for Mr. Woods?
You’re all set. Thank you. Board of
Elections – Mary McGowan –
MENSER:
Before we get into that you kind of skipped over the Veteran’s
information.
HUGHES: I apologize. Thank you.
MENSER: Tim and I are both on that committee and
we’ve been talking with the Veteran’s office, and we are going to start next
month having a monthly report of how many people they have worked with in that
month. The other thing that it is important to get out is that there’s a new
award that was presented to be given to any Veterans that served in Korea back
in 1954 most people don’t know about it but if you have a spouse or a child of
a person who served in Korea they can apply for and have that medal awarded.
HUGHES: Terrific, that’s really nice and thank
you for calling me out on that I appreciate that and I apologize for missing
it. It’s nice to have a report from the
Veteran’s office. Thank you and that’s
you and Mr. Pierce, correct? I’m going
to request Judy that we add both of their names to the report so that we will
highlight that area. Perfect, thank you
both very much.
Board of Elections – we had a false start but
now we’re on our way.
MCGOWAN:
Good morning, everyone. In your
packet you have our monthly for January, and you also have a resolution to
accept our annual report.
HUGHES: Okay, before we go into that resolution
are there any questions on their monthly report for January 2026? Looks like there’s no questions okay we need
a motion to accept and place on file the 2025 annual report as presented.
RESOLUTION ACCEPTING AND PLACING ON FILE THE
2025 ANNUAL REPORT FOR THE BOARD OF ELECTIONS.
Menser, O’Bryan
HUGHES: Discussion? Being none, all in favor aye, opposed –
carried. Thank you. Anything else you would like to add this morning?
HOLZER: A couple of things.
MCGOWAN: Also, on your desk I put a page
showing all of the dates of the upcoming election whether it was petitions,
early voting schedule and the election schedule. One of the things that is very important this
year is that when you do circulate petitions there is a last day to get
signatures which is different than the date you file. Anyway, the last day to
collect signatures is April 2nd and then the last date to file is
April the 6th so you cannot get signatures between those two dates.
MENSER: This is for republican and
democrat. There will be separate
information for independents.
HOLZER:
Absolutely.
MCGOWAN: Right the independent one is listed
there also the dates and their last date to file is the same as their last day
to collect signatures so that’s not a problem there.
LAMPHEAR:
Do we pick up our petitions now?
MCGOWAN: Yes, you can pick them up starting
next week and Monday is President’s Day so we are closed so as of Tuesday we
will have those ready.
HUGHES: I appreciate the cliff notes for the
actually very complicated state Board of Elections document that comes out we
had to go down the line and I find this is very helpful. Thank you for making
that happen.
HOLZER: Good job Mary. A couple more things as
Mary mentioned the last date to circulate petitions is April 2nd do
not circulate your petition that week to get signatures even though you are
filing on the 6th do not get signatures on the 2nd it
invalidates your petitions these dates are set by New York State not us. Speaking of another thing that is set with
New York State is this Saturday some members of the staff will be working to
allow constituents in our county to change their party enrollment if they wish
so on that Valentine’s Day some of our staff will be working think of them as
you’re doing your Valentine’s thing.
MCGOWAN: It’s love your party day.
HOLZER:
Or not. An important thing to
talk about Saturday after Saturday is done, we will have like sometime next week
the actually signatures you will be required to have on your petitions like
normally you would get petitions for Town of like North Elba you need 23 or
whatever we will hold those numbers until after Saturday because people will be
coming in to change their enrollments. I
believe that’s it. You have our annual
report if there’s any questions feel free to reach out to any of us, you’ll get
the same answer, I’m sure.
HUGHES: Any questions for Board of Elections
this morning?
THURSTON:
Can you explain to us how the school elections take place?
HOLZER: Well, so thankfully we have nothing to
do with the school elections. The only thing we provide the school is voter
enrollment if they ask, we’re really not involved in the school elections at
all.
THURSTON: So, who is?
HOLZER: It would be the Board of Education; the
local school district would be the Clerk to the Superintendent or someone like
that. School Board.
HUGHES: And possibly the School Board
Association of New York State as well.
THURSTON: Thank you.
HUGHES: Any questions? I see you brought some
of your staff members today thank you to you and thank you to them. Have a great day. District Attorney, Mr. Langey,
I don’t believe I see him in the audience so we’re going to move on. Emergency Services and Josh Favro.
REUSSER:
We need to do a resolution accepting their annual report.
HUGHES: We did that. Mr. Menser and Mr. O’Bryan
first and second, and we had a motion.
REUSSER: For Board of Elections?
HUGHES: Yes.
REUSSER: I missed it.
FAVRO: Good morning. Are there any questions on our monthly
report?
HUGHES:
You have the monthly report from emergency services any questions for
them on this report? Does not look like
it at this time.
FAVRO: I do have a few resolutions to bring in
front of you today. I did send out an email last week regarding purchase of a
rescue truck for the Hazmat team did everybody get to see that email or have
any questions on that? So, with that
being said, I have a resolution to purchase a 2003 International Heavy Rescue
truck from Hague Volunteer Fire Department with funds not to exceed $75,000
with funds coming from budgeted funds.
RESOLUTION AUTHORIZING THE PURCHASING AGENT TO
PURCHASE A 2003 INTERNATIOINAL HEAVY RESCUE TRUCK FROM THE HAGUE VOLUNTEER FIRE
DEPARTMENT IN AN AMOUNT NOT TO EXCEED $75,000, FOR THE EMERGENCY SERVICES
HAZMAT TEAM WITH FUNDS TO COME FROM BUDGETED FUNDS. Stanley, Pierce
HUGHES: Discussion? I appreciated very much your explanation, the
background, the rationale of how you’re working with DPW, how all of that is
coming together and so that was very helpful.
O’BRYAN: Is it going to be a single axle or a
double axle?
FAVRO: A
single axle and it will fit the garage at the mill, the firehouse at the mill
so it will be able to not have a foot of snow on it when we need to use it, and
they can keep it washed and ready to respond.
O’BRYAN: Good, that’s great.
HUGHES: We have a motion and second on the
floor. Any other questions on this resolution? All in favor aye, opposed –
motion carried. Next.
FAVRO: I have a resolution to accept the 2026
Essex County Deputy Fire Coordinators, Fire Investigators and Deputy EMS
Coordinator roster.
RESOLUTION ACCEPTING AND PLACING ON FILE THE
2026 ESSEX COUNTY DEPUTY FIRE COORDINATORS, FIRE INVESTIGATORS AND DEPUTY EMS
COORDINATORS. McGill, Menser
HUGHES: Discussion? Any questions on this resolution? Being none, all in favor aye, opposed –
carried.
FAVRO:
We were able to get some grant funding as we normally do and a lot of
you will notice that this department relies a lot on grants the radio system,
our hazmat team, pretty much our infrastructure for 911 so this is couple of
requests just moving money around for that reason. A resolution to increase revenues and
appropriations in the amount $689,655.00, from the New York State Emergency
Services ESInet, so it is an IP Network grant from resolution #287 from
December of 2025. These funds will be used to replace the fiber line from the
public safety building in Lewis to Willsboro trunk line and an additional fiber
entrance into public safety building to make our 911 system redundant.
RESOLUTION AUTHORIZING A BUDGET AMENDMENT IN
THE EMERGENCY SERVICES DEPARTMENT INCREASING REVENUES AND APPROPRIATIONS IN THE
AMOUNT OF $689,655.00, FROM NEW YORK STATE EMERGENCY SERVICES IP NETWORK
(ESINET) READINESS GRANT. Stanley,
Menser
HUGHES:
Discussion? Being none, all in
favor aye, opposed – motion carried. Thank you.
FAVRO: And the last resolution I have is a
resolution to increase revenues and appropriations in the amount of
$1,266,796.00, for the NextGen 911 grant, resolution #116 from June 2025 and
the funds will be used to upgrade call handling equipment in our PSAP to make
us NextGen compliant. Clinton and
Franklin Counties will be doing the same so we’re going to have a redundant
phone system between the three counties as we do our CAD now it’s going to be a
huge upgrade for us and we are going to be able to upgrade the UPS that runs
both the jail and our emergency services our side of the building.
HUGHES: Could you please remind the committee
of those PSAP?
FAVRO: Public safety answering port so our
dispatch center other words.
HUGHES: Thank you.
RESOLUTION AUTHORIZING A BUDGET AMENDMENT IN
THE EMERGENCY SERVICES DEPARTMENT INCREASING REVENUES AND APPROPRIATIONS IN THE
AMOUNT OF $1,266,796.00, FROM 2025 SYF NEXTGEN 911 GRANT. Stanley, Pierce
HUGHES:
Discussion?
STANLEY:
Is this grant covering the UPS that we were looking to do through the buildings
and facilities through DPW?
FAVRO:
Yes. Right Jim?
DOUGAN:
No.
MASCARENAS: There’s one of each right? So, one yes, one no.
HUGHES: So, everybody is right.
MASCARENAS: What you’re going to see here for
new board members and old board members alike is you’re going to see an awful
lot of these resolutions the first couple of months of monies moving forward
grants, indoor projects don’t typically fall within the fiscal year, state
fiscal years end in March, Federal fiscal years begin in October so you’ll see
a lot of these types of monies moving forward they might not all be spent in
one budget cycle so the remainder is pushed to another year so that’s why
you’ll see the increase in revenue and appropriations in these amendments we
don’t make it part of the budget process because they are ongoing some monies
are constantly going in and out of those accounts. It’s not until the next year, we’ll bring it
in.
HUGHES: And to your point, I appreciate you
adding the resolution from last year as a reference in case anybody wants to go
back and check that out. I appreciate it.
Okay, motion by Mr. Stanley, second by Mr. Pierce. Any other comments, questions on this
resolution? All in favor aye, opposed –
motion carried. Anything else from you?
MASCARENAS: You do have one more.
HUGHES: I’m going to go to Mr. Stanley for
that.
STANLEY: A resolution from the EMS
sub-committee for authorization for the Director of Emergency Services to
execute agreements with EMS agencies for the temporary use of county ambulances.
RESOLUTION AUTHORIZING THE DIRECTOR OF
EMERGENCY SERVICES TO EXECUTE AGREEMENTS WITH AGENCIES FOR THE TEMPORARY LOAN
OF COUNTY AMBULANCES TO BE USED WHEN THEIR AMBULANCE IS UNAVAILABLE OR OUT OF
SERVICE. Stanley, Menser
HUGHES:
Questions, concerns on that resolution that came out of that
subcommittee meeting this morning? Being
none, all in favor aye, opposed – motion carried. Thank you. Anything else for the committee this morning
sir? Anything else for Mr. Favro this
morning? Awesome. Have a great day,
thank you very much. Good work. Moving
onto Sheriff Reynolds.
SHERIFF REYNOLDS: I’m here if you have any
questions I can come up.
HUGHES: Any questions for the Sheriff on his
report this morning? Looks like you
don’t need to come up thank you very much.
Coroners – I don’t see. Probation
– Heather Sheehan.
SHEEHAN:
Good morning, everyone. You have
my report and I’m happy to answer any questions you may have.
HUGHES:
Any questions for the probation department and Heather this morning?
Doesn’t look like it. Awesome, thank you so much. Have a great day. Emily Evatt – Public Defender.
EVATT:
Good morning, everyone. I passed around my report this morning. If you have any questions for me, I’d be
happy to answer them.
HUGHES: We have a report from Emily. Thank you very much. Awesome, I hope it
didn’t take too long. Any questions for
the public defender this morning on her report or anything that is going on in
her office? Does not look like it so
thank you very much. Have a great day.
And Miriam Hadden, our Conflict Defender, is excused this morning so that
concludes the reports from committees.
Is there anything else that needs to come before this committee this
morning? Then we are adjourned.
As
there was no further discussion to come before this Public Safety committee it
was adjourned at 10:00 a.m.
Respectfully submitted,
Judith Garrison, Clerk
Board of Supervisors